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	<title>Comments on: Burnout, Part III: Guild Drama</title>
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		<title>By: emer</title>
		<link>http://www.timesink.ca/2008/12/18/burnout-part-iii-guild-drama/comment-page-1/#comment-7284</link>
		<dc:creator>emer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In some cases it&#039;s a lot more complicated than it looks. I didn&#039;t leave because people were too slow to get to 80 -- in fact, just the opposite. One of the reasons I faced burnout and I left is because I looked at the shear number of people at 80 and thought about the huge amount of work and dedication required to keep them happy -- and realized I wasn&#039;t up to it. I wasn&#039;t interested in helping out so many people I had no particular regard for (didn&#039;t dislike, didn&#039;t like -- didn&#039;t know). As one of the officers involved in the guild until that point, I take total responsibility for that and for the fact that the guild got so big. There were further reasons for my leaving that don&#039;t really matter; it doesn&#039;t matter what happened or why, just that it did.

Further, I recognized my own selfishness in my actions (no, I didn&#039;t feel like healing level 72 - 80 instances over and over again, and yes I realized that this is a selfish and indefensible opinion) and realized that it was having a bad influence on the guild as a whole, so I stepped back -- first down as an officer, and then completely out of the guild. When I read this post I got defensive, and then thought about why -- and the why is because some of what you wrote gets very close to the truth, and it&#039;s a truth I&#039;m not hugely proud of. I take responsibility for what brought me to the point I was at -- including a stubborn blindness to some problems. And I acknowledge the things that were out of my control. In the end, it&#039;s a little of both.

Regardless, for me, the key was that I was no longer having fun, and no longer serving the guild.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some cases it&#8217;s a lot more complicated than it looks. I didn&#8217;t leave because people were too slow to get to 80 &#8212; in fact, just the opposite. One of the reasons I faced burnout and I left is because I looked at the shear number of people at 80 and thought about the huge amount of work and dedication required to keep them happy &#8212; and realized I wasn&#8217;t up to it. I wasn&#8217;t interested in helping out so many people I had no particular regard for (didn&#8217;t dislike, didn&#8217;t like &#8212; didn&#8217;t know). As one of the officers involved in the guild until that point, I take total responsibility for that and for the fact that the guild got so big. There were further reasons for my leaving that don&#8217;t really matter; it doesn&#8217;t matter what happened or why, just that it did.</p>
<p>Further, I recognized my own selfishness in my actions (no, I didn&#8217;t feel like healing level 72 &#8211; 80 instances over and over again, and yes I realized that this is a selfish and indefensible opinion) and realized that it was having a bad influence on the guild as a whole, so I stepped back &#8212; first down as an officer, and then completely out of the guild. When I read this post I got defensive, and then thought about why &#8212; and the why is because some of what you wrote gets very close to the truth, and it&#8217;s a truth I&#8217;m not hugely proud of. I take responsibility for what brought me to the point I was at &#8212; including a stubborn blindness to some problems. And I acknowledge the things that were out of my control. In the end, it&#8217;s a little of both.</p>
<p>Regardless, for me, the key was that I was no longer having fun, and no longer serving the guild.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.timesink.ca/2008/12/18/burnout-part-iii-guild-drama/comment-page-1/#comment-7273</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hudson

Did the guild really fold after your post or did you just say that to avoid more drama and flame comments on your blog?

I am still part of the left behind guild mentioned in the post above I never actually talked to anyone or participated in any guild groups. I was / am in it for the single reason of that I had friends in the guild. No one ever talks to me or answers me in guild chat and quite frankly I don&#039;t care. Being in this position gives me a voyeuristic point of view of the drama and helps me pick out the douche bags from a purely unbiased point of view. I play casually and have never raided so I don&#039;t need to rely on anyone to get me gear. Fortunatly, the few friends I do have in the guild have been able to help me and my wife get respectable pre-BC blues and the mobs I need for quests. 

I&#039;ve had my fill of guild drama from win-at-the-game-fail-at-life type egos from my stint on EQ2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hudson</p>
<p>Did the guild really fold after your post or did you just say that to avoid more drama and flame comments on your blog?</p>
<p>I am still part of the left behind guild mentioned in the post above I never actually talked to anyone or participated in any guild groups. I was / am in it for the single reason of that I had friends in the guild. No one ever talks to me or answers me in guild chat and quite frankly I don&#8217;t care. Being in this position gives me a voyeuristic point of view of the drama and helps me pick out the douche bags from a purely unbiased point of view. I play casually and have never raided so I don&#8217;t need to rely on anyone to get me gear. Fortunatly, the few friends I do have in the guild have been able to help me and my wife get respectable pre-BC blues and the mobs I need for quests. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had my fill of guild drama from win-at-the-game-fail-at-life type egos from my stint on EQ2.</p>
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		<title>By: Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://hudshideout.com/blog/?p=74

I had the same issue (link above) and simply went off about it!</description>
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<p>I had the same issue (link above) and simply went off about it!</p>
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